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From: ortiz54 (
Subject: Congress Sneaks in New Terrorism Bill/Troops for Domestic Use
Newsgroups: soc.culture.dominican-rep, soc.culture.puerto-rico, soc.culture.colombia
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Date: 2000-08-30 07:11:41 PST

Subject: Congress Sneaks in New Terrorism Bill/Troops for Domestic Use
Date: 08/29/2000
Author: Oscar <>

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:09:04 EDT wrote:

Published: JULY 25 2000 Author: Congress

There are 2 versions of Bill Number H.R.4210 for the 106th Congress

1 . Preparedness Against Terrorism Act of 2000 (Introduced in the House)

2 . Preparedness Against Terrorism Act of 2000 (Engrossed in House

I just watched on C-span the NEW domestic terriorist bill- there is
only 20
representatives present.
This bill required a two-thirds vote of the house.

What they did was waved the rules and voted on it with the 20 people
were present.


This bill HR-4210 must be posted on free republic to get the
information out
to the people. You must read this bill; it ties it up to every
community in
the nation!

1 Posted on 07/26/2000 19:43:44 PDT by View The Truth
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New military unit for domestic deployment Cohen says

Americans should 'welcome' troops on home soil

By Jon E. Doughert Critics are denouncing recent congressional changes
to the
Posse Comitatus Act that will allow a broader use of U.S. military
forces in
a domestic law enforcement role including a new unit for deployment in
assisting civilian officers during a terrorist attack.

The new command, established Oct. 7 in Norfolk, Va., will be called the
Joint Forces Command, and replaces the former U.S. Atlantic Command. At
ceremony commemorating the new unit,

Defense Secretary William Cohen told participants the American people
shouldn't fear the potential of seeing U.S. military forces on the
streets of
U.S. cities.

The military must "deal with the threats we are most likely to face,"
told reporters, downplaying concerns about troops operating on home
"The American people should not be concerned about it. They should

The new command is designed to prepare U.S. troops to fight abroad or
respond if terrorists strike with nuclear, chemical or biological

In opposing the measure, critics cite the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act,
prohibits federal troops from participating in domestic law enforcement
activities under most circumstances. With the concern over domestic
rising since the World Trade Center bombing and numerous incidences of
cyber-attacks on U.S. defense and financial institutions, the Clinton
administration has begun to relax some of those restrictions.

In July, WorldNetDaily reported the new measures would end the
for local law agencies to reimburse the federal government for any
local use
of military equipment, as well as enable the Department of Defense to
military troops in cases of anticipated or actual terrorist attacks.

Then, David Kopel of the Independence Institute warned that the
would, if passed, "set (bad) precedents for years to come."

Since the Waco debacle in 1993, when federal law officers and military
personnel assaulted a church community resulting in the deaths of over
men, women and children, Kopel said the federal government has been
the protections contained in the Posse Comitatus Act." In the past, he
WorldNetDaily, most of the amendments to the original law had been
based on
bogus drug issues. Now, he said, that issue seems to have shifted to
so-called terrorist attacks, or at least the threat of them.

The Defense Department has said only the military has enough equipment
operate in a poisoned environment, or to manage a massive
effort. Secretary Cohen told reporters last week that federal law will
not be
violated because the military would only respond if requested.

"It is subordinate to civilian control," he said.

But Gregory Nojeim, legislative counsel for the American Civil
Union in Washington, D.C., told WorldNetDaily he is concerned about
"nightmare scenarios" like those in the recent films, "Enemy of the
and "The Siege."

"Soldiers are not equipped, by training or temperament, to enforce the
with proper regard for civil and constitutional rights," he said.
trained to kill the enemy."

Nojeim said the ACLU is concerned about "letting loose the most
fighting force in the history of the world" on American civilians.

Cohen said that the creation of the Joint Forces Command would better
coordinate the training of the four armed services. However, history is
replete with reasons why some Americans continue to be hesitant about
military troops in a law enforcement capacity.

Besides questions about the Army's Delta Force role during the Waco
most recently, in 1997, U.S. Marines assigned to assist the U.S. Border
Patrol in combating illegal immigration accidentally shot and killed an
18-year-old goat herder. That force has since been withdrawn and
but lawmakers have remained committed to expanding the military's civil
enforcement role in other ways.

For example, the military also has been given an expanded role in
against cyber-terrorism, or assaults on U.S. computer systems. The U.S.
Command in Colorado will be leading that effort.

Nojeim questioned the need for such an expansion of federal military
into the domestic law enforcement arena, even though U.S. officials
have said
the nation is now at greater risk of terrorist attack. He also believes
White House should do a better job of educating the American people
about why
the changes to the Posse Comitatus law are needed.

"For years the federal government has showered the FBI with hundreds of
millions of new dollars to help it combat crimes involving chemical and
biological weapons," he told WorldNetDaily. "Taxpayers need to know
that money has gone and why the president now wants to call in the

Addressing the long-term ramifications of the change in military law
enforcement policy, Nojeim said, "When the crisis hits, those with the
biggest guns will be subordinate to no one."

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